The hollowness of law school rankings

“We’re a top-ranked law school.”

Those words, in their various forms, are found everywhere in legal education marketing materials. They are hollow words. In my reflection, they grow more hollow each year.

It’s hard for me to think of where to begin a post like this one. Maybe I’ll start with what we think make a great law school. It’s great people, in a great community, doing great things. And others might have different definitions. But let’s start here.

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Each of these requires a preexisting definition of “great.” Great at what?

The first is great people. It draws faculty who excel at writing and speaking, teaching and mentoring, reading and listening. It’s people who as passionate about these aspects of legal scholarship and legal education, who aspire to give their students meaningful guidance as they begin their careers. It draws students who are engaged and active in the classroom, inquisitive and active, eager for journals and service to the community.

The second is a great community. It’s one thing to have great people working in silos, or great students studying and going their own ways. But to have a great community builds upon those assets, people who can support one another to ensure that articles are even sharper in their clarity and argument, that classroom experiences are even more meaningful to students by learning from one another, that employment opportunities for students are supported across the faculty, staff, and students to build a culture commitment to student success.

The third is doing great things. This requires some look at the outputs—the quality of the articles and books from the faculty, the influence of law journals and centers at the law school, the success (more than just “elite placement”) of students in legal careers in the short-term and the long-term. It can take a lot of forms, traditional legal scholarship and engagement with the legislature, bar, and bench; placement in elite law firms and public interest work; advancing interests in the local community and in the nation as a whole.

The broader the pool in each class—more great people, stronger community engagement, higher output of great achievements—the better the institution.

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From a prospective students view, assessing these things is difficult. It can be a challenge for a prospective law student to know exactly what “great” looks like. A student may want to do X or Y kind of law, but not really know what that means if an institution discusses its programs there or its alumni in that field, or how to weigh that against other competing concerns—or if it’s all just hype that doesn’t translate into the results one may want. Or a prospective student may not know exactly what she wants to do (particularly true of first-generation law students), and be at a loss of how to compare these things.

There is a temptation, then, to seek out advice. Undoubtedly, those with attorneys in the family or those in upper-class social strata or education circles get advice of varying types. But many also look for external validation, because it can be difficult to make assessments based on the representations of schools alone.

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External validation can be rankings. I’ve been highly critical (admittedly, an easy position for a law professor to take!) of most law school rankings—at least, those rankings that purport to be comprehensive, to distill everything about a school into a single measure. But I acknowledge there’s a reason they're out there: prospective students in particular look for help evaluating schools.

I confess, I was particularly attracted to rankings early in my blogging career, even ranking the rankings. (Links, mercifully, herein omitted.) Over time, I realize that was largely a symptom of my desire to generate traffic by ranking something, anything, for someone’s feedback. That’s not to say comparing law schools is unimportant, particularly for prospective students. But it’s to turn rankings into, well, clickbait. And perhaps the most clickbait-y of all are singular rankings that aggregate a series of factors for one, “true” ranking. Rankings can't do that.

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It’s the convergence of a few things, then, that may give rise to this hollowness of rankings. One is the tyranny of metrics, the obsession of measuring everything and evaluating everything on the basis of those measurements. I’m all for the "data-driven” or empirical evaluation of what we do. The tyranny part comes when those measures are used at the expense of all others, or used without proper acknowledgement of their limitations.

The bulk of rankings methodologies are much older than the available “analytics” we have and may desire to use today. Consider, again, USNWR, which includes a significant amount of inputs in its rankings, and which are not, in my judgment, useful. For instance, law students should worry much less about incoming metrics—essentially, self-congratulatory admissions-oriented metrics—and instead look at student outcomes.

I’ve tried to look more at student outcomes, from institutions’ commitments to reducing debt loads, to debt-to-income ratios of graduates, to employment outcomes at graduation, to federal judicial clerkship outcomes. Others have built on employment outcomes, too, in ways that are more helpful and more lucid than the USNWR figures (the published figures, for what it’s worth, are not the figures it uses in its actual ranking).

But unquestionably, the most alluring rankings are, really, any rankings, good or bad, that put a school in a good light (and may validate a prospective law student’s desire). Free pre-law magazines make them up. Blogs make them up. Clickfarms make them up.

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Those rankings are everywhere. And it allows schools, with ease, to cite them. But the line, “We’re a top-ranked law school,” reflects two great weaknesses of so many law schools: lack of confidence and a lack of vision.

Lack of confidence arises from the inability to articulate to others—prospective students, current students, alumni, donors, faculty, staff, and the larger university—of what the school is accomplishing. It might be that too many overstatements of a school’s achievements now fall on deaf ears. Or that there’s simply distrust in self-promotional presentations of a school’s accomplishments. And it’s recognizing that these “others” won’t necessarily heed the list of accomplishments without some reference to some ranking—as weak or as hollow as the ranking may be—to shore up the chronicles of success about the institution.

Lack of vision arises from an inability to articulate success. Rather than define success to a public audience, they rely on others’ definitions of success as validated through a ranking, and they promote that ranking as the end, as the definition of success.

I admit, it might simply be that these others prefer to have some external validation of the school’s quality, rather than something internal. But schools could readily identify the things I pointed out at the beginning: what makes the school great? It can be data-driven, or it can be a qualitative narrative. Ideally, it’s a combination. Schools should have confidence in their own vision as they’ve articulated and measured it, and they should be able to persuade relevant outsiders about why the law school is succeeding on these terms, not on someone else’s terms.

Maybe that’s all too idealistic. It’s impossible to unring the bell of rankings. But I think schools should be spending much more effort thinking about how to define success and how to communicate that.

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Here we sit on the eve of yet another USNWR ranking, one that gives weight to inputs, to dated measures like how much money a school spends on its electric bills—to an overall ranking that moderately correlates with some ways that we can think of “good” schools. But it’s time for schools to think about how hollow these rankings are, and to think about how to move beyond them in ways to persuade prospective students, the greater academic community, and the public about the institution’s value.

I’ve had a version of this post drafted in my blog queue for several years. I’ve been tweaking it now and then, and just never got around to posting it. These are my initial thoughts, that of course merit much deeper evaluation in the future!

At graduation employment figures for law school graduates in 2018

One underdiscussed statistic, in my view, is the “at graduation” employment figures at law schools.

Among 145 USNWR-ranked schools sharing data, the median at graduation employment rate was 56.1%. The median among all USNWR-ranked schools at 10 months after graduation was 83.3%. So there is substantial movement in those 10 months after graduation—passing the bar exam, moving to a new city, places of employment with limited resources hiring at the time they have an opening rather than years out, and so on. (The aggregate at-graduation employment metric, which is not the figure reported below, is just 4% of the overall USNWR ranking.)

Nevertheless, the ABA’s required disclosure employment data only includes the 10-month figures. USNWR collects and discloses the at-graduation employment rates, too. For students wondering about job security and likelihood of obtaining a position (and the ability to begin paying down debt promptly), at-graduation is an interesting figure. It’s also a figure that might relate to “elite” employment outcomes, like judicial clerkships (including state court clerkships) and big law firm associate positions—those are the kind that hire out months if not years in advance of a start date. It might be the case that government or public interest positions hire more frequently after graduation, a different way of thinking about these figures.

So below at graduation employment outcomes for the Class of 2018. USNWR includes full-time, long-term, bar passage-required and J.D.-advantage jobs that are not funded by a law school in this category.

School Employed at grad 2018
Columbia 94.2%
Virginia 92.3%
Cornell 91.3%
Penn 90.9%
Chicago 90.3%
Stanford 90.2%
Northwestern 90.0%
NYU 89.5%
Harvard 88.8%
Duke 88.2%
Michigan 84.2%
Seton Hall 84.2%
Berkeley 83.8%
Yale 82.8%
Vanderbilt 81.0%
Minnesota 79.7%
Georgetown 78.5%
Arizona State 77.9%
Washington & Lee 77.0%
Washington University (St. Louis) 76.1%
Fordham 74.4%
Texas 73.1%
Iowa 73.0%
BYU 72.3%
Rutgers 70.5%
UCLA 70.3%
USC 69.8%
George Washington 69.8%
Villanova 69.6%
Boston University 68.1%
Penn State-Dickinson 66.7%
UC-Davis 66.1%
St. Louis 66.0%
Notre Dame 65.9%
North Carolina 65.8%
Uconn 65.6%
Kansas 64.7%
Georgia 64.6%
St. John's 64.6%
Florida 64.4%
Illinois 64.4%
Ohio State 64.3%
William & Mary 64.2%
Kentucky 63.9%
Boston College 63.7%
Maryland 63.6%
Baylor 63.6%
Utah 63.0%
Albany 63.0%
Tulane 62.9%
Alabama 61.6%
UC-Irvine 61.4%
Tennessee 61.4%
Emory 59.9%
Temple 59.8%
Richmond 59.7%
Nebraska 59.6%
Wake Forest 59.2%
Louisville 58.7%
Creighton 58.7%
Hofstra 58.6%
Colorado 58.5%
George Mason 58.4%
Baltimore 58.3%
SMU 57.9%
Cardozo 57.0%
Toldeo 56.9%
Arizona 56.6%
UNLV 56.6%
Oklahoma 56.3%
Mercer 56.3%
Wisconsin 56.2%
Indiana-Bloomington 56.1%
Maine 56.0%
Washburn 55.0%
Washington 53.8%
Missouri 53.8%
LSU 53.7%
Houston 53.5%
South Carolina 53.4%
Penn State-University Park 52.0%
Drake 52.0%
Wayne State 51.8%
Syracuse 51.7%
Gonzaga 51.5%
Loyola Chicago 50.3%
Brooklyn 50.0%
DePaul 50.0%
American 49.1%
Marquette 48.8%
Pace 48.8%
New York Law School 48.7%
South Dakota 48.7%
Georgia State 48.6%
Miami 48.5%
Denver 48.1%
Cincinnati 47.8%
Howard 47.4%
Buffalo 46.6%
University of St. Thomas 46.5%
Tulsa 45.7%
Hawaii 45.3%
Florida International 45.2%
Loyola Law School-Los Angeles 45.0%
Montana 44.9%
Arkansas 44.2%
Northeastern 44.1%
New Hampshire 43.8%
New Mexico 43.8%
Michigan State 43.5%
Catholic 43.3%
Duquense 43.3%
Texas Tech 43.2%
Quinnipiac 42.7%
Wyoming 42.4%
Illinois-Chicago (John Marshall) 42.0%
Vermont 42.0%
West Virginia 41.8%
Pepperdine 41.7%
Florida State 41.1%
Drexel-Pennsylvania 41.1%
Stetson 41.0%
Suffolk 41.0%
Case Western Reserve 40.5%
Chicago-Kent 40.5%
San Diego 40.2%
Missouri 40.0%
Akron 40.0%
Texas A&M 39.9%
Memphis 39.8%
Oregon 39.5%
Santa Clara 39.2%
UC-Hastings 38.3%
Lewis & Clark 38.2%
Pittsburgh 37.8%
Indiana-Indianapolis 36.6%
Cleveland State 36.4%
Mitchell Hamline 34.4%
Mississippi 34.1%
Chapman 32.8%
Seattle 30.2%
Dayton 28.2%
Belmont 26.9%
Loyola New Orleans 26.1%
Willamette 26.0%

Law school inputs, outputs, and rankings: a guide for prospective law students

As we approach another law school rankings season, Dean Paul Caron has compiled a tentative ranking of the “admissions” metrics that USNWR uses as a component of its law school rankings methodology. Median LSAT score of the incoming class, median UGPA of the incoming class, and acceptance rate are 25% of the rankings.

Interestingly, in my judgment, it’s also probably one of the readiest way for a prospective law student to judge which school are most overvalued and undervalued by USNWR.

Law school inputs are, I think, probably the very weakest measure of law school quality from a student’s perspective. Prospective students, I think, care far less about the academic credentials of those around them, and far more about, say, their employment outcomes, their debt levels, or even the profession’s perception of their institution. (Above the Law’s rankings long ago focused on outputs over inputs. Professor C.J. Ryan has also looked to “value-added” rankings, what law schools add value to the student experience.)

Indeed, it’s remarkable to me that just 20% of the rankings focus on employment and bar outcomes, while 25% on admissions statistics. We know law schools spend significant resources on distorting admissions practices to meet UNSWR metrics.

But if you’re a student, which is better? To be at a law school with a median LSAT of 170 but a 50% high-quality job placement rate? Or at a law school with a median LSAT of 160 but an 80% high-quality job placement rate? One could look at the same figures for students who graduate with a low debt-to-income ratio, too.

Admissions-centered rankings, then, can help a prospective law student discern which schools are overvalued and undervalued by existing rankings, and discount accordingly. If two schools sit beside each other in the USNWR ranking, it might be because one has much better inputs and another much better outputs. Or if there are two schools that appear to disparate, it might be only because of a disparity of inputs, not outputs.

This isn’t to say that law school inputs are unimportant. They are important—to law schools, not (mostly) to law students. They are important to predict likelihood of success in law school, so law schools want to admit students with high likelihood of success. (For marginal students admitted to a school, it might be relevant to them as an indicator of the challenges they may face in the first-year curriculum in particular.)

But those figures aren’t generally, in my judgment, useful for prospective law students. Separating the components of the rankings can provide better information in decisionmaking.

Some data on law school-specific debt load disparities between men and women

The ever-valuable LSSSE data recently noted that women tend to graduate from law school with higher debt loads than men. The ABA has tracked this, too. On the heels of recent Department of Education data disclosures, however, we can drill down on law school-specific figures.

I looked at mean debt data for males and non-males. (That’s how the DOE codes the data—I assume the vast majority of non-males are females, but it could include non-binary individuals, and I’ll formally use the DOE coding.) Unsurprisingly (given the aggregate figures from LSSSE & ABA, among others), there are more schools where the mean debt loads for non-males are greater than the mean debt loads for males. At about half the schools, the debt ratios are close to parity—of the 208 schools in my data set, about 100 have a mean debt load of less than a $5000 difference between the sexes.

But I found 72 schools where average debt incurred was at least $5000 more among non-males than males. That gap was at least $10,000 at 34 schools. And it was at least $20,000 among four.

On the other side, there were 35 schools where average debt incurred was at least $5000 more among males than non-males. The gap was at least $10,000 at 14 schools, and at least $20,000 at one school.

I looked at schools on mean non-male debt, less mean male debt. A positive figure (+$10,000) means that the average non-male debt was that much larger than male debt. A negative figure (-$5000) means that the average male debt was that much larger than non-male debt.

Below is a table, then a visualization. These are 2018-2019 figures.

School Mean non-male debt less mean male debt
Univ. of Massachusetts-Dartmouth $42,979
Univ. of the District of Columbia $25,457
Widener Univ. $24,442
Western Michigan Univ.-Thomas M. Cooley $20,851
Tulane Univ. of Louisiana $18,508
Pepperdine Univ. $18,209
Barry Univ. $18,017
Mercer Univ. $17,882
Nova Southeastern Univ. $17,881
Saint Louis Univ. $17,587
Washington and Lee Univ. $17,286
Lewis & Clark College $17,245
Univ. of Georgia $16,200
The John Marshall Law School $15,927
Univ. of Akron Main Campus $15,761
Santa Clara Univ. $14,160
Univ. of Richmond $13,590
Northern Kentucky Univ. $13,087
Mississippi College $12,907
Arizona Summit Law School $12,693
Santa Barbara and Ventura Colleges of Law $12,043
Suffolk Univ. $12,000
Univ. of Oklahoma-Norman Campus $11,975
Univ. of Kansas $11,939
Case Western Reserve Univ. $11,852
Univ. of La Verne $11,705
Southern Univ. Law Center $11,593
Campbell Univ. $11,431
Whittier College $10,906
Wake Forest Univ. $10,609
Univ. of Detroit Mercy $10,458
North Carolina Central Univ. $10,227
Univ. of Memphis $10,088
Thomas Jefferson School of Law $10,048
Harvard Univ. $9,671
Univ. of Idaho $9,472
Arizona State Univ.-Tempe $9,329
Samford Univ. $9,257
Seattle Univ. $9,223
Stanford Univ. $9,134
Florida Coastal School of Law $9,116
Mitchell Hamline School of Law $9,114
Univ. of Houston $9,071
The Univ. of Texas at Austin $8,970
Southwestern Law School $8,517
St John's Univ.-New York $8,355
Cornell Univ. $8,213
Touro College $8,136
Univ. of Missouri-Columbia $7,997
Southern Illinois Univ.-Carbondale $7,938
Univ. of Chicago $7,675
St. Mary's Univ. $7,570
Univ. of North Carolina at Chapel Hill $7,440
New England Law-Boston $7,232
Ohio Northern Univ. $6,882
West Virginia Univ. $6,867
Univ. of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign $6,859
The Catholic Univ. of America $6,859
Univ. of South Carolina-Columbia $6,776
Univ. of Baltimore $6,579
Western State College of Law at Argosy Univ. $6,425
Argosy Univ.-Orange County $6,425
Stetson Univ. $6,127
Georgia State Univ. $6,041
Capital Univ. $6,023
Rutgers Univ.-New Brunswick $6,005
Univ. of Maryland, Baltimore $5,959
Yale Univ. $5,666
American Univ. $5,456
Georgetown Univ. $5,390
Concordia Univ.-Portland $5,229
Texas A & M Univ.-College Station $5,119
Univ. of Wyoming $4,994
Pontifical Catholic Univ. of Puerto Rico-Ponce $4,925
New York Univ. $4,850
Univ. of Notre Dame $4,832
Trinity Law School $4,802
Trinity International Univ.-Illinois $4,802
Wayne State Univ. $4,799
Fordham Univ. $4,747
George Washington Univ. $4,736
Golden Gate Univ.-San Francisco $4,609
Univ. of Arkansas at Little Rock $4,545
Texas Tech Univ. $4,425
Univ. of Denver $4,405
Univ. of Utah $4,403
Univ. of Missouri-Kansas City $4,345
Appalachian School of Law $4,001
Univ. of Iowa $3,976
Seton Hall Univ. $3,831
DePaul Univ. $3,825
Albany Law School $3,732
Univ. of Virginia-Main Campus $3,627
Washington Univ. in St Louis $3,569
Univ. of Florida $3,352
Northwestern Univ. $3,326
Gonzaga Univ. $3,324
Emory Univ. $3,273
Charleston School of Law $3,086
Willamette Univ. $2,836
Univ. of Michigan-Ann Arbor $2,793
Univ. of Oregon $2,746
Univ. at Buffalo $2,366
Syracuse Univ. $2,337
Univ. of Arkansas $2,249
Illinois Institute of Technology $2,042
Belmont Univ. $1,987
Texas Southern Univ. $1,680
Washburn Univ. $1,609
Inter American Univ. of Puerto Rico-School of Law $1,426
California Western School of Law $1,411
Ohio State Univ.-Main Campus $1,357
Chapman Univ. $1,341
Univ. of the Pacific $1,001
Univ. of Louisville $988
St. Thomas Univ. $664
Cleveland State Univ. $619
Charlotte School of Law $457
Univ. of Hawaii at Manoa $402
Univ. of North Dakota $284
Brigham Young Univ.-Provo $257
Atlanta's John Marshall Law School $104
Savannah Law School $104
Univ. of Dayton $50
Univ. of Colorado Boulder -$93
Brooklyn Law School -$169
Boston College -$214
Univ. of Toledo -$343
Pace Univ. -$406
Indiana Univ.-Purdue Univ.-Indianapolis -$410
Purdue Univ. Global-Davenport -$417
Purdue Univ. Global -$417
Loyola Marymount Univ. -$700
Hofstra Univ. -$750
Florida State Univ. -$766
Temple Univ. -$809
Univ. of Miami -$1,194
South Texas College of Law Houston -$1,195
Yeshiva Univ. -$1,236
Univ. of Tulsa -$1,309
The Univ. of Tennessee-Knoxville -$1,316
Michigan State Univ.-College of Law -$1,475
Howard Univ. -$1,521
Duquesne Univ. -$1,652
William & Mary -$1,685
Massachusetts School of Law -$1,906
Univ. of California-Davis -$2,086
The Univ. of Alabama -$2,118
Columbia Univ. in the City of New York -$2,226
Univ. of Washington-Seattle Campus -$2,408
Univ. of San Francisco -$2,461
Univ. of New Mexico-Main Campus -$2,618
Duke Univ. -$2,882
Univ. of Kentucky -$3,042
Loyola Univ. Chicago -$3,172
Univ. of New Hampshire-Main Campus -$3,180
Vermont Law School -$3,241
Ave Maria School of Law -$3,298
Quinnipiac Univ. -$3,330
Univ. of Nevada-Las Vegas -$3,412
Univ. of Southern Maine -$3,502
Univ. of California-Berkeley -$3,644
New York Law School -$3,675
Univ. of Nebraska-Lincoln -$3,685
Florida Agricultural and Mechanical Univ. -$3,805
Louisiana State Univ. -$3,869
The Univ. of Montana -$3,982
Northern Illinois Univ. -$4,129
Univ. of Wisconsin-Madison -$4,137
Florida International Univ. -$4,781
Univ. of California-Hastings College of Law -$4,803
Univ. of Pennsylvania -$4,860
Univ. of Arizona -$4,860
Univ. of Connecticut -$5,274
Taft Univ. System -$5,295
Univ. of Cincinnati-Main Campus -$5,311
Drexel Univ. -$5,630
Univ. of St Thomas -$5,638
George Mason Univ. -$5,982
Villanova Univ. -$6,181
Roger Williams Univ. -$6,393
Univ. of Minnesota-Twin Cities -$6,726
Univ. of San Diego -$6,806
Southern Methodist Univ. -$6,873
Boston Univ. -$7,034
Univ. of Mississippi -$7,069
Univ. of California-Los Angeles -$7,678
Univ. of South Dakota -$8,142
Univ. of Southern California -$8,502
Marquette Univ. -$8,537
Creighton Univ. -$8,542
Regent Univ. -$8,954
Pennsylvania State Univ.-Dickinson Law -$9,492
Pennsylvania State Univ.-Main Campus -$9,492
Oklahoma City Univ. -$10,330
Valparaiso Univ. -$10,441
Ohio Northern Univ. -$10,673
Lincoln Memorial Univ. -$11,282
Univ. of Pittsburgh-Pittsburgh Campus -$12,507
Baylor Univ. -$13,041
CUNY School of Law -$13,275
Indiana Univ.-Bloomington -$13,515
Loyola Univ. New Orleans -$13,696
Drake Univ. -$13,700
Northeastern Univ. -$15,642
Chapman Univ. -$17,551
Vanderbilt Univ. -$18,237
Univ. of California-Irvine -$23,266

Which law schools have the best and worst debt-to-income ratios among recent graduates? 2020 edition

Last year, a treasure trove of data from the Department of Education offered incredible insights into debt and earnings of law school graduates. A recent update for 2018-2019 has been made available, and we can look at the data again.

One intriguing figure is the “debt-to-income” ratio (last year, plenty of people hated this term, but I’m still using it), or how much student debt recent graduates have compared to their earnings. Lower is better. (A slightly better way is to calculate what percentage of your monthly paycheck is required to service your monthly debt payment, or the debt-service-to-monthly-income ratio, but this gives a good idea of the relationship between debt and income.) It’s entirely imperfect, of course—graduates have interest accrued on that debt when they graduate; they may have other debt; and so on. It’s just one way of looking at the data!

I took the raw data file and pulled out all domestic schools that had a concentration in “law” for a “doctoral degree” or “first professional degree.” I then compared the median debt load to the median earnings figures. (Of course, there’s no guarantee these figures are the same person, and there may be other mismatches, like high earners with low debt or low earners with high debt. Again, just one way of looking at the data!)

The Department of Education site defines these figures as follows:

Field of Study Median Earnings

The median annual earnings of individuals who received federal financial aid during their studies and completed an award at the indicated field of study. To be included in the median earnings calculation, the individuals needed to be working and not enrolled in school during in the year when earnings are measured. Median earnings are measured in the second full year after the student completed their award.

These data are based on school-reported information about students’ program of completion. The U.S. Department of Education cannot fully confirm the completeness of these reported data for this school.

For schools with multiple locations, this information is based on all of their locations.

Field of Study Median Total Debt for Loans Taken Out at This School

The median federal loan debt accumulated at the school by student borrowers of federal loans (William D. Ford Federal Direct Loan Program, the Federal Family Education Loan Program, and Graduate PLUS Loans) who completed an award at the indicated field of study. Non-federal loans, Perkins loans, and federal loans not made to students (e.g., parents borrowing from the federal Parent PLUS loan program) are not included in the calculation. Only loans made at the same academic level as the award conferred are included (e.g., undergraduate loans are not included in the median debt calculation for graduate credential levels). Note that this debt metric only includes loans originated at this school, so this metric should be interpreted as the typical debt level for attending this school alone, not necessarily the typical total debt to obtain a credential for students who transfer from another school. For schools with multiple locations, this information is based on all of their locations.

These data are based on school-reported information about students’ program of completion. The U.S. Department of Education cannot fully confirm the completeness of these reported data for this school.

That means debt loads can of course be higher if undergraduate loans were factored in. These count Academic Year 2018-2019 figures.

A number of elite schools are near the top—despite their high debt levels, they translate into high median incomes among their graduates. A number of lower-cost schools also fare well near the top.

A good rule of thumb might be that “manageable” debt loads are those where debt is about equal to expected income at graduation—i.e., a ratio of 1.00 or lower. Only 22 schools meet that definition among median debt and earnings, and a few others are close. But it was 11 in the last data set, so the figure improved. Many ratios, however, are significantly higher than that. That said, law graduates to have higher earnings and see their salaries rise faster than a typical borrower, so maybe it’s not the best rule of thumb, either.

Of course, medians are likely skewed in other ways—the highest-earning graduates likely received the largest scholarships and, accordingly, graduated with the lowest debt (as I mention earlier).

But, the figures are below. I sort by the lowest (i.e., best) debt-to-income ratio. (Due to size of chart, results may be best viewed on a desktop or on a phone turned sideways.) I noted earlier that schools at the bottom of the list (i.e., with the highest ratio) appeared at a much higher risk of facing “adverse situations.”

UPDATE: A helpful commenter noted that many borrowers will be eligible for Public Service Loan Forgiveness programs. If schools have disproportionately higher percentages of students entering those programs, their debt levels will appear worse than they actually and their salaries will appear on the lower end of the income side. It’s another limitation in thinking about a single-figure metric.

School Debt-to-Income Ratio Median Debt Median Income
Brigham Young Univ. 0.76 $49,710 $65,457
Cornell Univ. 0.78 $139,926 $179,153
Northwestern Univ. 0.78 $138,065 $176,087
Stanford Univ. 0.80 $130,762 $163,869
Harvard Univ. 0.82 $141,190 $172,423
Duke Univ. 0.83 $139,961 $168,296
Univ. of Pennsylvania 0.84 $150,634 $179,672
Univ. of Virginia 0.90 $157,870 $175,653
Univ. of Chicago 0.90 $156,934 $173,847
Santa Barbara and Ventura Colleges of Law 0.90 $53,000 $58,673
Univ. of California-Berkeley 0.94 $150,000 $160,316
Univ. of Iowa 0.94 $59,711 $63,788
Washington Univ. in St Louis 0.94 $88,000 $93,342
Columbia Univ. in the City of New York 0.95 $177,000 $185,760
Wayne State Univ. 0.95 $61,500 $64,415
Univ. of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign 0.96 $71,701 $74,666
Yale Univ. 0.97 $126,398 $130,669
Temple Univ. 0.97 $67,518 $69,477
Univ. of Michigan-Ann Arbor 0.97 $141,505 $145,235
Georgia State Univ. 0.98 $65,768 $67,225
Vanderbilt Univ. 0.98 $126,907 $129,252
The Univ. of Texas at Austin 0.99 $105,553 $106,117
The Univ. of Alabama 1.00 $63,595 $63,572
Univ. of Wisconsin-Madison 1.04 $61,500 $58,995
New York Univ. 1.04 $184,952 $177,207
Univ. of Kansas 1.04 $61,500 $58,898
Univ. of Nebraska-Lincoln 1.04 $58,621 $56,140
Texas Tech Univ. 1.05 $73,000 $69,732
The Univ. of Tennessee-Knoxville 1.05 $61,500 $58,744
Univ. of Arkansas 1.08 $61,500 $56,949
Boston Univ. 1.09 $119,295 $109,286
Univ. of Houston 1.10 $81,118 $73,446
Univ. of Utah 1.12 $74,100 $66,420
Univ. of Cincinnati-Main Campus 1.12 $64,066 $57,318
Univ. of Missouri-Columbia 1.13 $63,084 $55,840
Georgetown Univ. 1.13 $164,954 $145,898
Univ. of California-Los Angeles 1.13 $124,812 $110,067
Univ. of Oklahoma-Norman Campus 1.15 $73,500 $63,997
Univ. of Connecticut 1.15 $86,158 $74,845
Univ. of North Dakota 1.16 $61,500 $53,045
Baylor Univ. 1.16 $86,862 $74,786
Univ. of Nevada-Las Vegas 1.17 $85,790 $73,579
CUNY School of Law 1.19 $70,450 $59,438
Boston College 1.19 $109,256 $91,744
Univ. of California-Davis 1.20 $89,009 $74,200
Univ. of Georgia 1.23 $81,080 $65,840
Rutgers Univ.-New Brunswick 1.24 $76,500 $61,855
Villanova Univ. 1.25 $78,619 $63,140
Indiana Univ.-Bloomington 1.25 $81,500 $65,238
Univ. of St Thomas 1.25 $73,500 $58,673
Univ. of Mississippi 1.25 $65,900 $52,584
Drexel Univ. 1.26 $73,894 $58,823
Univ. of Hawaii at Manoa 1.27 $80,116 $63,302
Fordham Univ. 1.27 $150,000 $118,210
Pennsylvania State Univ.-Dickinson Law 1.29 $70,763 $54,867
Pennsylvania State Univ.-Main Campus 1.29 $70,763 $54,867
Univ. of Southern California 1.30 $129,000 $99,325
Univ. of Arizona 1.30 $77,069 $59,288
Univ. of Tulsa 1.30 $76,373 $58,673
Univ. of New Hampshire-Main Campus 1.33 $83,797 $63,005
Univ. of Notre Dame 1.33 $126,962 $95,295
Florida State Univ. 1.34 $72,302 $54,005
George Mason Univ. 1.34 $99,248 $73,870
Mitchell Hamline School of Law 1.36 $78,744 $57,948
Univ. of Washington-Seattle Campus 1.37 $95,727 $70,100
Univ. of North Carolina at Chapel Hill 1.39 $95,390 $68,778
Case Western Reserve Univ. 1.41 $83,500 $59,288
Arizona State Univ.-Tempe 1.43 $92,309 $64,706
Louisiana State Univ. 1.43 $75,768 $53,080
Washburn Univ. 1.44 $75,093 $52,226
Univ. of Richmond 1.44 $86,056 $59,819
Univ. of Oregon 1.44 $86,641 $60,156
Duquesne Univ. 1.44 $82,620 $57,318
Univ. of Florida 1.44 $92,076 $63,869
Northern Illinois Univ. 1.45 $74,611 $51,551
West Virginia Univ. 1.45 $82,128 $56,544
Univ. of Akron Main Campus 1.46 $73,530 $50,272
Washington and Lee Univ. 1.47 $97,097 $66,007
Indiana Univ.-Purdue Univ.-Indianapolis 1.48 $89,961 $60,714
Pace Univ. 1.49 $94,806 $63,699
William & Mary 1.50 $105,414 $70,083
Ohio State Univ.-Main Campus 1.51 $100,481 $66,512
The Univ. of Montana 1.51 $76,994 $50,922
Quinnipiac Univ. 1.51 $93,151 $61,516
Saint Louis Univ. 1.51 $91,143 $60,162
St John's Univ.-New York 1.52 $109,414 $71,940
Yeshiva Univ. 1.53 $110,033 $71,725
Michigan State Univ.-College of Law 1.54 $90,168 $58,402
Univ. of California-Irvine 1.56 $119,986 $76,998
Massachusetts School of Law 1.56 $78,600 $50,439
Texas A & M Univ.-College Station 1.56 $102,723 $65,825
Univ. of Colorado Boulder 1.57 $100,082 $63,600
Northeastern Univ. 1.58 $93,751 $59,485
Univ. of Arkansas at Little Rock 1.58 $78,617 $49,737
Univ. of San Diego 1.59 $122,698 $77,013
Univ. of New Mexico-Main Campus 1.60 $85,991 $53,908
Illinois Institute of Technology 1.61 $102,823 $64,051
Southern Methodist Univ. 1.61 $141,372 $87,718
Univ. of Kentucky 1.61 $82,450 $51,106
Univ. of South Dakota 1.63 $83,269 $51,169
Univ. at Buffalo 1.63 $94,804 $58,252
Univ. of Memphis 1.65 $91,826 $55,512
Univ. of Toledo 1.66 $79,000 $47,729
Wake Forest Univ. 1.66 $105,577 $63,666
Univ. of Louisville 1.66 $80,928 $48,703
Univ. of Minnesota-Twin Cities 1.66 $112,944 $67,879
Concordia Univ.-Portland 1.67 $93,836 $56,234
Cleveland State Univ. 1.68 $85,892 $51,273
Albany Law School 1.68 $105,731 $62,880
Seton Hall Univ. 1.71 $114,394 $66,781
Univ. of Wyoming 1.72 $98,352 $57,110
Syracuse Univ. 1.72 $104,570 $60,714
Brooklyn Law School 1.74 $120,042 $68,880
Emory Univ. 1.76 $136,500 $77,643
Univ. of Maryland, Baltimore 1.77 $117,611 $66,335
Tulane Univ. of Louisiana 1.79 $109,928 $61,516
Univ. of Baltimore 1.79 $104,000 $57,995
Univ. of California-Hastings College of Law 1.81 $138,152 $76,460
Univ. of Pittsburgh-Pittsburgh Campus 1.81 $101,541 $56,028
Drake Univ. 1.83 $116,582 $63,749
Univ. of Idaho 1.84 $97,842 $53,150
Univ. of the District of Columbia 1.85 $111,015 $60,099
Univ. of Southern Maine 1.85 $100,974 $54,655
Univ. of Missouri-Kansas City 1.86 $98,485 $53,017
Florida International Univ. 1.89 $103,947 $54,996
Santa Clara Univ. 1.90 $151,269 $79,561
Loyola Univ. Chicago 1.97 $138,223 $70,136
George Washington Univ. 1.98 $172,333 $87,242
Loyola Marymount Univ. 1.98 $143,433 $72,564
Lincoln Memorial Univ. 1.98 $85,713 $43,240
Northern Kentucky Univ. 1.99 $88,500 $44,418
Suffolk Univ. 2.03 $119,123 $58,629
Ohio Northern Univ. 2.04 $100,224 $49,064
South Texas College of Law Houston 2.05 $133,762 $65,338
Western State College of Law at Argosy Univ. 2.06 $124,476 $60,523
Argosy Univ.-Orange County 2.06 $124,476 $60,523
Univ. of South Carolina-Columbia 2.06 $110,100 $53,450
St. Mary's Univ. 2.07 $114,578 $55,383
The Catholic Univ. of America 2.07 $145,649 $70,386
Gonzaga Univ. 2.08 $111,584 $53,739
Southern Illinois Univ.-Carbondale 2.12 $97,582 $46,087
New York Law School 2.13 $150,358 $70,596
DePaul Univ. 2.13 $125,162 $58,704
North Carolina Central Univ. 2.14 $98,248 $45,986
Appalachian School of Law 2.14 $101,278 $47,260
Loyola Univ. New Orleans 2.15 $112,662 $52,420
Chapman Univ. 2.20 $155,229 $70,680
Lewis & Clark College 2.24 $130,058 $58,142
Texas Southern Univ. 2.25 $116,166 $51,652
Regent Univ. 2.25 $116,588 $51,750
Southern Univ. Law Center 2.26 $101,655 $44,959
Howard Univ. 2.26 $153,893 $68,033
Florida Agricultural and Mechanical Univ. 2.27 $103,971 $45,826
Univ. of Denver 2.28 $140,174 $61,558
Creighton Univ. 2.29 $130,998 $57,168
Touro College 2.29 $141,289 $61,622
Pepperdine Univ. 2.30 $162,500 $70,651
Hofstra Univ. 2.30 $146,890 $63,749
California Western School of Law 2.33 $141,521 $60,643
Capital Univ. 2.35 $111,600 $47,553
Mercer Univ. 2.35 $129,917 $55,356
Univ. of Detroit Mercy 2.35 $135,776 $57,657
Univ. of Massachusetts-Dartmouth 2.36 $116,322 $49,214
Widener Univ. 2.37 $128,868 $54,462
Seattle Univ. 2.45 $154,269 $62,856
Univ. of Miami 2.46 $153,562 $62,384
Roger Williams Univ. 2.49 $123,384 $49,547
Roger Williams Univ. School of Law 2.49 $123,384 $49,547
Belmont Univ. 2.50 $135,522 $54,275
Samford Univ. 2.50 $127,411 $50,952
Univ. of the Pacific 2.55 $160,450 $63,005
Willamette Univ. 2.58 $147,911 $57,318
Stetson Univ. 2.59 $141,439 $54,543
American Univ. 2.70 $177,999 $65,833
Univ. of Dayton 2.76 $133,728 $48,432
New England Law-Boston 2.78 $146,068 $52,542
Golden Gate Univ.-San Francisco 2.84 $158,774 $55,813
Campbell Univ. 2.85 $140,880 $49,498
Trinity Law School 2.85 $138,605 $48,667
Trinity International Univ.-Illinois 2.85 $138,605 $48,667
The John Marshall Law School 2.87 $157,559 $54,970
Marquette Univ. 2.87 $156,615 $54,622
Valparaiso Univ. 2.87 $136,455 $47,553
Mississippi College 2.95 $140,178 $47,595
Univ. of San Francisco 2.96 $196,166 $66,240
Univ. of La Verne 3.10 $161,762 $52,107
Nova Southeastern Univ. 3.14 $162,536 $51,829
Charleston School of Law 3.18 $144,682 $45,500
St. Thomas Univ. 3.23 $152,124 $47,056
Southwestern Law School 3.40 $211,466 $62,192
Ave Maria School of Law 3.54 $158,206 $44,666
Inter American Univ. of Puerto Rico 3.65 $100,520 $27,532
Barry Univ. 3.86 $167,186 $43,345
Western Michigan Univ.-Thomas M. Cooley 3.97 $180,337 $45,383
Thomas Jefferson School of Law 4.27 $205,025 $48,041
Arizona Summit Law School 4.27 $198,258 $46,432
Atlanta's John Marshall Law School 4.31 $180,883 $41,937
Savannah Law School 4.31 $180,883 $41,937
Charlotte School of Law 4.36 $196,998 $45,213
Pontifical Catholic Univ. of Puerto Rico-Ponce 4.94 $106,290 $21,508
Florida Coastal School of Law 4.95 $204,226 $41,280
Whittier College 5.02 $204,664 $40,747

Law school first-year academic dismissals drop more than 50% after spring semester without grades

Back in March, I shared some reflections that were mostly against the idea of moving to pass-fail grading, identifying some value of grades in the spring, especially among first-year students, and some problems. One included concerns about academic dismissal of law students.

We now have some figures from law schools. Academic dismissals among first-year law students were down over 50% year-over-year. They dropped from 1182 among ABA-accredited law schools (excluding schools in Puerto Rico) in 2019 down to 558 in 2020. (1L enrollment was basically flat.)

But I want to parse out what this means. Most law schools moved to pass-fail grading. Law schools were obviously aware that moving to pass-fail grading would cut half of a first-year student’s GPA. So many law schools may well have postponed their academic dismissals until this winter to get a second semester’s worth of grades.

From my look at the date, about 11 schools had a 5% or higher academic dismissal rate in 2019 that dropped to 0 this year. My assumption is those schools would be in a prime place for it.

A lot of other schools typically don’t academically dismiss any students, so their figures are unchanged.

But a lot of schools saw dramatic reductions in academic dismissal rates—from, say, 5 to 8% in 2019 to 1 to 2% this year. Some saw 10-20% rates drop to 4-6%.

It’s not clear if these rates mean schools were more lenient in their standards. Or maybe it means that they enforced them coupled with a true “failing” grade arising in pass-fail classes. That is, perhaps there were some actual failing grades issued when, well, let’s face it, pass-fail typically means “pass” in most courses. Or maybe schools articulated standards based on Fall 1L GPA performance alone.

In any case, we won’t know until next December what the 2L academic dismissal rates look like, and whether they’ll back-fill academic dismissals into this class. But I thought I’d flag the continuing lingering effects from the spring semester pandemic-related shutdowns and grading changes, and look at what it might yield in the year ahead.

Law school 1L JD enrollment holds steady for 7th straight year as non-JD enrollment climbs to all-time highs

The 2020 law school enrollment figures have been released. They show a slightly worse first-year JD enrollment and continued growth in non-JD enrollment. Almost 16% of law school enrollees, nearly 1 in 6, are not enrolled in a JD program.

While this is the second straight year of a slight decline in 1L enrollment, it remains mostly flat. (The 2010 peak was 52,488 1Ls.) In 2018, 1L enrollment was 38,283; it fell to 38,202 this year. It’s the seventh straight year of enrollment between 37,000 and 38,500, remarkable consistency.

Total JD enrollment also increased slightly to 114,520, the highest figure since 119,775 in 2014-2015 (but still well off the peak of 2010-2011 with 147,525).

Non-JD enrollment continues to climb. I’m mildly surprised, as I thought pandemic-related travel restrictions coupled with some Department of Education regulations might have dampened the market for at least some foreign-educated non-JD enrollment, but apparently the non-JD market remains strong.

The ABA changed its definitions a few years ago, which resulted in a spike in reported non-JD enrollment, but the steady climb continues. (It’s also worth noting that those enrolled in both JD and non-JD programs simultaneously, at least in recent years, are counted in each set, so this slightly overstates, to an unknown degree, non-JD enrollment.)

21,292 were enrolled in non-JD programs, a 1,400-student jump over last year. It’s now about 16% of all law school enrollment.

The ABA didn’t track non-JD online enrollment separately this year, and understandably so, I suppose, given that most is online. More information about the kinds of degrees and the outcomes of those who secure these degrees would be welcome information, the kind of information that remains unavailable at this time. (I recently looked at debt and earnings of graduates of such programs from data disclosed by the Department of Education.)

Here I also highlight a handful of schools with the highest non-JD enrollment as a percentage of total law school enrollment. There are a few heavy-hitters that are driving a lot of the non-JD enrollment.

No "folly," no "Potemkin Villages," no "wildfires"--a semester of in-person hybrid legal education

I’m wrapping up the last days of my in-person hybrid semester of law school teaching. I wanted to revisit some of the more dire claims made this summer.

Professor Dan Rodriguez described the plans as “nonsense,” “hubris,” and “folly.” He cites Professor Deborah Merritt who described plans to return to the university as “the Ptolemaic model of the universe.” Professor Tim Duane analogized the return to in-person education as “a large, dry forest after a devastating drought: a single spark or flying ember will readily spread a wildfire through this unburned woodland.” Professor Josh Blackman described them as “little more than Potemkin Villages,” anticipating that schools would “shift everything online” and face RICO actions from students.

It’s increasingly apparent these projections just weren’t true.

I taught one week in person, one week online to minimize first-year and upper-division student overlap in the building, and to use classroom space effectively. Some students opted for all online classes, as did some professors. All were accommodated.

I taught with a mask, and while students were spread around the room, the classroom environment was otherwise entirely ordinary.

I taught the end of the Spring 2020 term online, and I taught summer classes online, so I was eager to return to the classroom.

I didn’t realize how much I missed it. There’s a spontaneity that happens in the classroom, from student chatter among themselves to brief conversations before and after class. There’s a responsiveness and reaction to one another that’s missing from an online environment. I find the energy of moving about the room and using the chalkboard much better. I engage students in conversation more easily and readily than online, when I’m too easily tempted to shift into lecturing. It also meant that the relationships in the classroom more naturally translated to the online component in the other weeks.

Revisiting my August 2020 post on the topic, my reformatting worked (I think), and I was, indeed, cautious but eager. And I look forward to replicating it again this spring.

I close by noting that there were lots of nay-sayers (I highlight some above) last summer. Nay-saying would be an easily solution, to be sure. Online-only has attracted a lot of students, faculty, and institutions, and many seem to enjoy it reasonably well, or well enough, or well enough for Covid.

But, I think, it’s encouraging that in-person hybrid models were not as disastrous as others projected. There remains plenty of opportunity to think, based on an individualized institutional assessment, which models are best for which sets of students. I don’t think it’s a one-size-fits-all model. And I’m glad this in-person hybrid version of the model worked this fall.

Are any law schools launching mid-1L transfer opportunities?

“Wow, what a terrible idea,” I’m sure many readers immediately think. But let’s face it, the coronavirus pandemic has “disrupted” (to use an overused term) higher education in a number of aspects. Why not transfers?

I can think of a number of reasons students might want to transfer in the middle of their first year as opposed to the end of it. Students may have expected a particular educational experience (online or in-person, among other expectations), and that experience might have been changed very late in the process—or it might be that the students experienced the option and dislike it, preferring an alternative. Students who want to be in-person, for instance, might want to move to an institution where that’s an option and a university administrative commitment (coupled with state and local authorities permitting such an option). Students who are studying remotely anyway wouldn’t have to move mid-year, as they could stay at home and take online classes (if that’s the option) at an institution in the Spring 2021 term.

Some might note that students haven’t received any 1L grades yet. True, but schools have already been recruiting transferring students before they’ve received their fall 1L grades (a dirty secret of legal education!). Early hints at a student’s grades exist in 1L legal writing assignments. LSAT/UGPA profiles are imperfect, but they’re still useful—and, indeed, the overwhelming focus of admissions remains on these factors. And many schools might say these factors are good enough.

Maybe there’s some ABA rule against this. But it struck me that, in the middle of a pandemic, we might see traditional rules go out the window, at least in some places.